New Pool Owner, No Chlorine less than 24 hours after shocking.

[madwil]

use the bleach for now...
Until we get good readings on all the rest of your chemicals, you want to avoid dichlor, trichlor, and cal hypo, I think
Use muriatic acid to lower pH, borax to raise pH, maintain between 7.2 and 7.8
Use bleach to maintain your chlorine
get a full set of tests when you can, and post numbers
What does the water look like? Is it clearing up, or still green, or cloudy?

[DistantHorizon]

Using a Taylor test kit (k-2005), I got the following:
FC .5-1
TC .5-1
ph 7.2-7.4
Alk 100
Calcium 200 or less (got a little drop-happy, might be around 180 or so)
Didn't do Cyanuric Acid 'cause I'm short on the test chemical, but I'm sure it's still around 40-50 based on numerous tests I and the pool store have done.

I wanna shock in the next couple hours, how much should I use? Would prefer one of my pool chems unless 2 182oz 6% bleach containers are enough.

[DistantHorizon]

What does the water look like? Is it clearing up, or still green, or cloudy?

Forgot to answer that - water is really clear and has been for many days now. The last big shock about a week ago took care of that. Oh, and I see my posts are still delayed, have to be approved by moderator... thought paying for a subscription would avoid that. No?

[aylad]

. Oh, and I see my posts are still delayed, have to be approved by moderator... thought paying for a subscription would avoid that. No?

I'll get Ben to look at this thread to take care of that.

If you want to shock to 15, and don't want to use bleach, then it looks like about 30 oz of cal hypo or 90 oz of dichlor will get you there--but then you're going to need to maintain it.


Janet

[DistantHorizon]

If you want to shock to 15, and don't want to use bleach, then it looks like about 30 oz of cal hypo or 90 oz of dichlor will get you there--but then you're going to need to maintain it.
Janet

Poolcalculator.com is telling me more like 55oz by volume of cal hypo. (Pool at 22,000 gallons, FC at .5, goal 15). What am I doing wrong there?

[aylad]

Poolcalculator.com is telling me more like 55oz by volume of cal hypo. (Pool at 22,000 gallons, FC at .5, goal 15). What am I doing wrong there?

You're not doing anything wrong, I mis-typed the volume of the pool. Sorry. Correction is 68 oz by weight of 65% cal-hypo, or 80 oz by weight of dichlor. Personally, I use bleach and strongly recommend it, especially when trying to clear up a problem.

Janet

[CarlD]

When you added all that calhypo you hammered the algae and was the heavy lifting that cleared your pool. Reading this was painful as you seem a really capable person being badly mislead by all the misinformation being given you.
Your problem was caused by the pool guy and everyone saw as a chance to sell you stuff. You got "Pool-Stored" big-time. It has happened to all of us. Pool care is really simple but if everyone knew how simple it was the pool services would be out of business and half the pool stores with them.

Check out our sister site, poolsolutions.com and read the section on the BBB method. You will be amazed how simple it all is! It only gets complicated when the pool store has you put in a bunch of junk that makes it worse. Luckily Ben could walk you through it. From now on it will be so simple you will never use a pool service again and you wont believe how inviting your water looks.

Carl

[DistantHorizon]

When you added all that calhypo you hammered the algae and was the heavy lifting that cleared your pool. Reading this was painful as you seem a really capable person being badly mislead by all the misinformation being given you.
Your problem was caused by the pool guy and everyone saw as a chance to sell you stuff. You got "Pool-Stored" big-time. It has happened to all of us. Pool care is really simple but if everyone knew how simple it was the pool services would be out of business and half the pool stores with them.

Check out our sister site, poolsolutions.com and read the section on the BBB method. You will be amazed how simple it all is! It only gets complicated when the pool store has you put in a bunch of junk that makes it worse. Luckily Ben could walk you through it. From now on it will be so simple you will never use a pool service again and you wont believe how inviting your water looks.

Carl

Yeah, read about BBB, but don't have enough bleach around yet... was trying to get by with cal hypo tonight. Guess I'll run to the store and get some more bleach. One way or another, I'm shocking this thing tonight 'cuz my gf is having her niece and nephew over tomorrow afternoon. Hoping poolcalculator's 662oz 6% bleach is accurate.

[CarlD]

Cal-Hypo's FINE since you CH level is 200ppm. Other than adding calcium it has the fewest side effects of powdered chlorine compounds. I don't use it much because I always have Liquid Chlorine around (Just really strong bleach--12.5%--but "Liquid Chlorine" sounds so pro...It actually works out to be the same as if I was paying $1.45/gallon of 6% bleach, so I use it. But it's the same stuff).

Using Dichlor or Tri-chlor tabs is only appropriate when you need to add stabilizer and your pH is fairly high, because both (especially Tri-chlor) drive pH down and both add lots of stabilizer.

The B-B-B method is really a philosophy of easy and sensible pool care. You can do EVERYTHING with Bleach, Borax, and Baking Soda, and just augment it with Muriatic Acid and CYA powder. You don't need ANYTHING else to run a clean sanitary pool, year after year. Oh: You DO need two more things: 1) Knowledge 2) a really good test kit.

Everything else is just for convenience.

Carl

[DistantHorizon]

Well there we go, added approximately 3.6 x 182oz (662oz) of 6% bleach, should be at or greater than 15ppm at this point. I erred on the high side since I didn't have anything to measure with and don't know my exact pool volume yet, maybe I put in 3.7 jugs?

Will test tomorrow morning, and if I have time I'll post the results first thing.

THANK YOU to all of you who have trudged through this thread and assisted me!