Mine produces visible bubbles at the returns as well. I use to have rising pH, but since lowering TA to about 80 (I use to keep it around 100) the pH rise has pretty much stopped. It's been 2 full seasons since I've added acid.
Mine produces visible bubbles at the returns as well. I use to have rising pH, but since lowering TA to about 80 (I use to keep it around 100) the pH rise has pretty much stopped. It's been 2 full seasons since I've added acid.
22'x40' Grecian Lazy L 20K gal IG vinyl pool; Aqua Rite SWCG T15 cell; Hayward Pro Grid 6020 DE filter; Hayward Superpump 1hp pump; 12 hrs; Taylor K-2006; city; PF:6
Agreed!
I keep my TA at 70-80ppm and borates at 50ppm. Since adding the borates to my water in August, my MA additions went from almost every other day to once every 5 days. In fact, I just had a recent dilution to my pool water and I need to add about 8 lbs of boric acid to get my Borate levels back up. I like to use boric acid instead of borax as the pH rise from borax is too worrisome to me. I'd need to add MA along with it or else I'll get cloudy water from calcium. Boric acid has the added benefit of bumping my pH down a bit on addition so no need to worry about calcium issues.
But even with all that, I always know when the cell is running by the little bubbles coming out of the returns.
16k gal IG gunite PebbleTec (Caribbean Blue), 18' x 36' free form with raised spa/spillway and separate rock waterfall. All Pentair Equipment pad - 3HP IntelliFlo VS / 1.5HP WhisperFlo, MasterTemp 400k BTU/hr heater, QuadDE-100 filter, IC40 SWCG, IntelliTouch/EasyTouch Controls
22'x40' Grecian Lazy L 20K gal IG vinyl pool; Aqua Rite SWCG T15 cell; Hayward Pro Grid 6020 DE filter; Hayward Superpump 1hp pump; 12 hrs; Taylor K-2006; city; PF:6
Me too. I like to tell my little kids that the pool is farting, makes them laugh like crazy. I also do the TA and FC tests in front of them and when the TA test goes from green to red, I tell them that someone pee'd in the pool. They all go wide-eyed and start blaming each other. It's totally hilarious!![]()
16k gal IG gunite PebbleTec (Caribbean Blue), 18' x 36' free form with raised spa/spillway and separate rock waterfall. All Pentair Equipment pad - 3HP IntelliFlo VS / 1.5HP WhisperFlo, MasterTemp 400k BTU/hr heater, QuadDE-100 filter, IC40 SWCG, IntelliTouch/EasyTouch Controls
Lol!
22'x40' Grecian Lazy L 20K gal IG vinyl pool; Aqua Rite SWCG T15 cell; Hayward Pro Grid 6020 DE filter; Hayward Superpump 1hp pump; 12 hrs; Taylor K-2006; city; PF:6
I believe there are also some other @chemgeek posts which show that low TA is desirable in an SWCG in order to minimize calcium scaling as the local environment inside the cell is so alkaline that the CSI is very positive relative to the bulk pool water. Also borates help to reduce scaling inside the cell as well because calcium borate does not or can not form.
You might give borates a try someday after you get bored with solving the world's problemsI was quite impressed with the changes to my pool water chemistry. Plus, it adds a little extra algae-death insurance to the water.
16k gal IG gunite PebbleTec (Caribbean Blue), 18' x 36' free form with raised spa/spillway and separate rock waterfall. All Pentair Equipment pad - 3HP IntelliFlo VS / 1.5HP WhisperFlo, MasterTemp 400k BTU/hr heater, QuadDE-100 filter, IC40 SWCG, IntelliTouch/EasyTouch Controls
If you don't like my style you don't have to participate in threads I'm commenting on. If you don't like that the administration team of Pool Forum actively participate in threads, you don't have to participate in Pool Forum. I'm a volunteer, like my fellow moderator, Watermom, and our PF Support Team. We've all been helped by those who came before us, and try to help those who've come after us. I've been here about 12 years now, I think. We get NOTHING but the satisfaction of helping other pool owners--and maybe learning something new along the way.
Some forums allow and even encourage members to treat each other with disrespect, discourtesy and condescension, to insult and demean each other. Pool Forum isn't one of them.
Carl
Carl,
Dude!! Obviously I am totally miscommunicating here with you. I WAS JOKING. That was meant to be funny, not an insult.
I realize that writing posts on a forum removes all visual/non-verbal clues from normal human conversation and that we have to be careful in how we write things but I've read that post back a bunch of times and I just don't see it as an insult.
Is there some way you prefer, in written format, to offset things in order to indicate sarcasm or humor, because i seem to be leading you into inferring malice with what i write and that is totally NOT the intent.
You have my apologies again for a poor post but can you please help me to understand you a bit better? Or, at the very least, just take a lot of what I say with several grains of salt....
16k gal IG gunite PebbleTec (Caribbean Blue), 18' x 36' free form with raised spa/spillway and separate rock waterfall. All Pentair Equipment pad - 3HP IntelliFlo VS / 1.5HP WhisperFlo, MasterTemp 400k BTU/hr heater, QuadDE-100 filter, IC40 SWCG, IntelliTouch/EasyTouch Controls
I have been on edge lately with links outside of the pool forum. Just my state of mine right now. More pizza might help.
26K gal 20x40 rectangular IG vinyl pool; Apr 2014: New pump, liner, auto-cover, & water; Pentair Whisperflo 1HP pump; Pentair Trition sand filter; Cover/Star CS-500 auto cover; Taylor K-2006C; OTO
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