If I looked at the sand in the filter, what should I see?

[waste]

TW, good would be clean fluffy sand. Bad would be black - grey - green film on the top, or visible channels in the sand. However worst would be ... no sand! If you decide to pop it open, stick a finger in there and see if it resists some gentle pressure, you can't always tell by sight how the sand is holding up. Should you open it, let us know what you find.

[tenax]

if i can add to this one a bit..and all the advice is good so far..if the sand is hard, it's not going to filter anything ..or it may be partially hard..but to the point you don't want to go poking a stick in there as you could wreck the vanes inside..but you should be able to easily poke a finger around our 2 fingers and run sand between your fingers anywhere you can reach in the filter if it's good. i believe sand in filters is supposed to be good about 5 years..that maybe rated based on year round use as my sand is at least 7 years old and was still completely "sandy" consistency at the end of last season.

[tribe_fan]

If it aint broke - don't fix it !

I think I'd wait til the end of the season - you may damage an o ring or a gasket. It's easier to look for parts when you don't need them right away.

When you say you dont see anything in the glass - you do see water in there when backwashing ?

[aquarium]

Heh, too late.

I opened it up and there was about a half inch of grey fluffy gunk on top of the sand. I scooped out as much of that as I could. Then I dug around in the sand and determined that it was compacted, mostly against the sides and into the tank about 4-5 inches. So I used my hand to uncompact it, then backwashed. Then opened it again and stirred it some more, then backwashed. The pool has to refill now before I might backwash it again before setting it to filter.

I am SO glad I looked at the spider gasket in the multi-port valve a few days ago. It was a gooey mess and had to be replaced. Earlier in the year when I did a complete draindown, I wondered why so much water kept coming back into the pool through the return nozzles, even though it was set to pump to waste. Had I not replaced the spider gasket, a lot of that grey gunk would have gone into the pool today.

EDIT: The glass has always been clear water, until today's cleaning.

EDIT2: Opened it a third time, stirred the sand and backwashed. Pretty sure I'll still get a cloud of grey water when it's set to filter, so I'll do that later tonight. When nobody is looking.

[duraleigh]

Very interesting. What are your thoughts are on why it was compacted?

It seems to me regular backwashing should prevent that. Do you think the "grey junk" could have been from not backwashing frequently enough? Have you owned the filter since it was new?

Oops, just reread your first post. I wonder if the old owner thought backwashing was something he and the wife did in the shower?

[aquarium]

Why was it compacted? Dunno, maybe that's just what it does eventually? Probably was never properly backwashed in its early years.

I went ahead and turned it to filter, no grey cloud into the pool, so that's good.

Before I replaced the spider gasket the system ran at about 12psi, because it was leaking water around the gasket. With the new gasket but before cleaning the sand, it jumped up to 18psi. Now with the sand cleaned it's running at 15psi.

TW

[aquarium]

Been running it 24/7 the last three days as I do the alkalinity adjustment thang. Stop and backwash each day for a minute or so, get a short burst of grey water each time, so that seems to be working better.

One other thing that struck me about the compacted sand - Since the spider gasket was blown the path of least resistance during a backwash might have been to bypass the filter, so even when set to backwash there was little actual effect.

TW

[waterbear]

Very interesting. What are your thoughts are on why it was compacted?

It seems to me regular backwashing should prevent that. Do you think the "grey junk" could have been from not backwashing frequently enough? Have you owned the filter since it was new?
But it doesn't always. That's why I say that a filter should be broken down yearly and inspected!
Oops, just reread your first post. I wonder if the old owner thought backwashing was something he and the wife did in the shower?

A lot of things can cause the sand to gunk up and channel...high calcium levels, large organic load, adding DE to the filter, etc. Backwashing won't remove all of that.

I've tried to make this point before and got blasted for it.