Well the pool guy came out to look at it today. This is starting to work out really well. Next door neighbor had a skimmer he bought at a yard sale, the pool guy had a return in his truck so that was installed today (amazing how much more movement there is in the water) We went and got the plate thing and shorter hoses. He'll be back sometime tomorrow for that. Thinks our filter is too small, so guess has an extra DE filter from a yard sale (actually he has 2 in his shed) so if that can be attached to our pump and is big enough he will be getting a gift certificate to a local restaurant. and the skimmer might be installed for trade with a snow blower. LOL Thanks for all your input and I'll let you know how all goes.