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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettasweet
    OK my new friends. I finally got to the pool store with my sample, here's the results that they printed for me. You guys let me know what I should do now.

    Free Chlorine: .2PPM
    Total Chlorine: .2PPM
    Combined Chlorine: .0PPM
    PH: 7.7
    Hardness: 70 ppm
    Alkalinity: 19 ppm
    Cyanuric Acid: 5 ppm

    We have a 27 foot round above ground pool. 52 or 54" deep I can't remember for sure.

    These results were taken about a week after we poured 10 bags of shock in the pool and the filters been running since. The shock turned the soupy green water into cloudy bluish water and that's is where it is now. Haven't added any chemicals other than the shock.

    Soooo, now what?
    First step is to get a good test kit. If none of the pool stores carry one then order Ben's or go online and get a Taylor K-2006 (Ben's is a better deal for the money!) OR see if walmart has the $15 5 way drop kit (will get you started until the kit you ordered from Ben arrives but it will not test Free chlorine....only Total!) Cloudy blusih water sounds like water with mostly dead algae. IMHO, I would put bleach in the pool and get it back to shock level (with 5ppm CYA that would be 10PPM free chlorine), keep it there, , filter 24/7, and vacumn to waste until the water is clear (but I have been know to be a bit obsessive ), then let the free chlorine drop to 3 ppm and keep it there, get your CYA up to about 30 ppm, and then bring your ALK up to 80-120 ppm with baking soda. Keep your chlorine at 3 ppm throughout. When the Alk has stabilized at 80-120 get your pH to somewhere between 7.2-7.8 (lower end probably a bit better) by adding SMALL amounts of either acid (dry or muriatic) to lower it or Borax to raise it and waiting 24 hours (wait at least 4 or 5!) retesting and making small adjustments until the pH is in range. General consensus is that you don't have to worry about calcium with a vinyl pool! You are then good to go! (swimming that is)
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    Can you post a link to Bens test kit you're talking about. I found the ones on this page: http://www.poolsolutions.com/cart/kits.php

    But it appears they are discontinued. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettasweet
    Can you post a link to Bens test kit you're talking about. I found the ones on this page: http://www.poolsolutions.com/cart/kits.php

    But it appears they are discontinued. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.
    Try here!
    http://www.poolsolutions.com/cart/ps234.php
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    OK, I'll get a good testkit. But is there somewhere on this forum that lists what exactly I need to raise PH so much, and how much of it. As well as the others. I kneed to know exactly how to get my pool to the levels they need to be at.

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    To raise both PH and Alkalinity at the same time, use Arm & Hammer Baking Soda. You can get it in 4 pound boxes at the grocery store and 12 pound bags at Sam's Club, Costco, etc. There is a dosage chart on the box. As for what your levels should be...I have a chart at home that I made up using various information from this board & Pool Solutions (PoolDoc runs both sites). But, I'm not home right now...I'm at work.
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    Loretta,

    Please don't get mad at this answer....even tho I don't think it's what you want to hear.

    If you download Mwsmith2's calculator from any of his posts it'll tell you how much to add of the different stuff...depending on where they are now.

    That said, how will you know where they are now without a test kit? Those pools store numbers are too old to be useful. I'll say it again, every post in your thread will simply be an arbitrary guess until you find a way to post your current numbers.

    Next, how will you know when you get to where you need to be? You need the test kit and then we will all work hard with you to get your water sparkling!!

    Dave S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Loretta,

    Please don't get mad at this answer....even tho I don't think it's what you want to hear.

    If you download Mwsmith2's calculator from any of his posts it'll tell you how much to add of the different stuff...depending on where they are now.

    That said, how will you know where they are now without a test kit? Those pools store numbers are too old to be useful. I'll say it again, every post in your thread will simply be an arbitrary guess until you find a way to post your current numbers.

    Next, how will you know when you get to where you need to be? You need the test kit and then we will all work hard with you to get your water sparkling!!

    Dave S.
    Why would I get mad? Those test numbers were from the day I posted them so they may not have been up to the minute, but as quick as I could post them. I downloaded Michaels calc and it just tells me how much bleach to put in.

    What I need to know is where can I find out how to raise or lower my other levels other than chlorine to get them where they should be? Or does the bleach just balance everything else out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorettasweet
    OK, I'll get a good testkit. But is there somewhere on this forum that lists what exactly I need to raise PH so much, and how much of it. As well as the others. I kneed to know exactly how to get my pool to the levels they need to be at.
    You don't need to raise your pH, in fact, your chlorine will be more effective if you lower it. Use baking soda to raise TA with only a negligible rise in pH. However, I'm going to echo what you've already been told.......you're wasting time and money without a good test kit.

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    Hi, Loretta,

    Soooo, now what?
    I am only going to repeat what's already been said. Not to Nag, Loretta, but to emphasize what all the folks above have been saying.

    You need a good test kit.

    Any advice anyone gives you on the forum will be simply a guess until you can post your current numbers so we can all help you get your water under control. I know it's tough to cough up a significant amount of money that doesn't "do" anything to your pool but you will be paid back a hundred times over.

    You must be able to test for pH, FC, CC, CYA and Alk. If you're not sure what those are, ask and we'll explain. Don't waste your time (and money) running back and forth to the pool store for the tests.....it's too costly, too time consuming, and frequently, too inaccurate.

    It's obvious you're willing and eager to learn....that test kit really has to be your first step.

    Once you get your kit, figure your pool for about 17,000 gallons.

    I would not waste money and time putting an arbitrary amount of "Shock" into your pool. Post your numbers and we'll all help you with meaningful dosages (and meaningful results)

    Dave S.

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