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    So if I understand this, the metal is in the water and it can't be removed? I will always have to use a sequesterant as routine maintenance? Is there other sources to purchase it in larger quantities?
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    Default Re: Stains returning

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyW
    So if I understand this, the metal is in the water and it can't be removed?
    pretty much, unless you drain and refill with water that has no metal or the metal comes out of the water as stain.
    I will always have to use a sequesterant as routine maintenance? Is there other sources to purchase it in larger quantities?
    Not that I know of but the maintenance dose is only a couple of oz. ususally every week or two....sometimes you can get by putting it in once a month.
    Thanks for you help

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    Thanks again, I appreciate all your help.

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    I am going to be using Metal Magic by ProTeam this week and it (in theory) will make the iron in the water "crystallize" so that it can be filtered and vaccuumed out.

    You aren't Marty Weston by any chance are you?

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    No, the last name is Wagner. Let me know how the Metal Magic works. I suspect my metal is probably copper from my heater, although I really try to keep my pH high enough to keep it from leaching the copper out.

    Thanks Marty

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    I will post after I use the metal magic.. I think it's scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Marie (mbar) is also trying it out, she is actually who gave me the idea to try it.

    I would think your heater is where the metals (copper) are coming from. I don't have a heater so hopefully once I deal with the metals they will be out, until I have to add water or something.

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    Marty, If you keep your alkalinity in range - 80 - 120, and your calcium in range - with fiberglass I keep mine at 150 - 200, you can keep your ph as low as 7.0, and it won't damage the heater. If you have a fiberglass pool that is having staining issues, then I would keep the ph at 7.2, and no higher than 7.4. Keeping sequestering agent in at all times.

    Gerri, Take your ph down to 7.2 - with the additional sequestering agent, the stains should lighten up till you use the metal magic. Let me know how it goes. I haven't used it yet. I just got home from vacation and am having company, so I won't get to it for a while.
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    Question Re: Stains returning

    Everyone says to keep the pH low to prevent the stains from coming back. I thought too low of a pH (acidic) would cause the copper to be leached out of the heater and subsequently cause more stains. Do I have it backwards?

    Marty

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