Yellow/Brown dusty deposits that reappear repeatedly

[matt4x4]

Richard, My guess is it's algae, it multiplies if left alone to the point where you get the heavy deposits in the craters getting even heavier, and an even film over the rest of the floor, I guess what i mean by "telltale blue" is the cloudy/white, but mixed with the background of the blue liner, it looks blue to me.
I will recheck my CYA tonite since i just dealt with this crap last week and it won't have changed from tehn, but I'm guessing it's somewhere closer to 20 than 30.

Even with DE in my filter, some (a lot) will get filtered out and looks green upon backwash, however, it comes back just as quick, and like i stated before 15PPM only slows it down, 20-25 has an effect. Dirt won't oxydize, so i know it's not clay dust - nor would my pool collect that much of it so quickly with a cover on it. And backwashing would be brown, not green.

Now, here's another observation my neighbour and i had the other evening - the air was just THICK with microscopic flying bugs, and I mean thick! No, it was not the beer we were drinking!
We couldn't see them if having the sky as the backdrop, however, get the trees as backdrop and you could see these things EVERYWHERE - now, maybe they're not the cause, but I could see that they may be the food keeping this stuff going.

Also, this year, I added salt to my pool, I thought salt was supposed to help deter algae as well, obviously not this stuff....

[Rangeball]

Hmm...

I walked out to check my pool this noon. I have this stuff in the corners of my deep end. Water looks great, is holding CL, but I still have this stuff.

I plan to vacuum it to waste tonight, then shock if it comes back. I'm not totally convinced it's algae. It could just be massive amounts of pollen/dust, but I don't know.

If I get a chance, I'll try to get a sample and run the test Richard mentioned.

[matt4x4]

after 3 years of dealing with this crap, and this year being the first where I was able to make it go away fast, I am convinced it's algae - unfortunately, I have none left in my pool to experiment with (well, maybe unfortunately is NOT the word I should be using...)
I have found several posts regarding the same stuff, all started mid august or later, this is a seasonal thing and because it takes chlorine (lots of it) to eliminate it, then it must be something organic. Since it multiplies, it's gotta be algae. I will be researching this further since it seems to be happening relatively frequently.

[matt4x4]

Ok, I found some algae with similar if not identical properties - called Brown Algae or Silica Algae - caused commonly through excess silicates and nitrates, inadequate light (like covering your pool because you're not using it much due to cooler weather).
Fed by things such as fertilizer - hmmm - fall, farmers fertilizing the fields before turning them over, me, living in the country? Anybody else in the country?

Anyways, that's all i have right now!

[Rangeball]

I live in a small town surrounded by country

Of course all our fertilizing was done in the spring, fields still have standing corn and beans. I don't cover my pool, but I don't know where silicates or nitrates would come from, have only used bleach. Having owned a pool for 12 years, this is the first year I noticed this stuff, and is also the first year I added salt. Coincidence? Perhaps the silicates are in the salt?

[jstonemo]

I don't live in the country, but close to it. I am in the KC suburbs on the edge of country land. My pool is not covered either. I have my FC over 20 right now and I am watching it. Gonna have to buy some floc and DE tonight.

[raptureready1953]

Hi

I have been posting on another part of the forum. I have the same stuff. Mine started in July, really right after I put the pool up. I just thought it was dust/dirt from trees, and dirt/clay rd. I have been fighting this mess for awhile. Chlorine is above 25 for at least three days. Did dump 1/4 of water this morn and refilled. Been sweeping/vacumming. ETC. I do not have a way to backwash/ have a vinyl pool with the pump that came with it. I do have a new filter in it. Ok, it was like mentioned until I left to help dd with new baby. DH forgot to keep the chlorine up ..well when I came back it was dark green thru the whole pool. My pool today is a pretty blue with cloudy substance but notice the brown gunk when I sweep. Just like described. Ok, keep chlorine up but what happens when I let it drop back to swimming level, will that brown stuff come back? I havent got rid of it yet either. I do not cover it, I do live in the country, and my bro in law has his in full sun and he has it too. He does not cover his either. (lives next door) I havent been able to swim in the last two wks. I really would love to use the pool before cool weather sets in here in NW Fl panhandle. Thanks for any help. Oh, what is FLOC? And where do I get it? Thanks.

[jstonemo]

Floc is flocculant. It is a product that you add to the water that allows really fine particles to stick together into larger particles that your filter can catch and remove from the water. You can get it a your local pool store.

[tootic]

I'm having the same problem with my ag pool. It started about 2 weeks ago. I got in to vacuum as cold as the water is this time of year and after I ran the filter for about 2 hours, I saw the same brown algae-like substance on the bottom but mostly in the middle area. My water is also a cloudy blue after vacuuming. I'm going to try doing a super shock but would like to know how much de to add to my sand filter. This stuff definitely seems to be blowing back in. When I backwash after vacuuming, there is only clear water coming through the hose. I'm also going to try using a filter saver (nylon skimmer sock purchased from In The Swim catalogue). Hopefully, if I vacuum with this sock in place, it will catch some of that dam BROWN STUFF. I've had an ag pool for the past 15 years with no problems but the past 2 years have been a nightmare. I didn't know that you could add de to a sand filter.

[Wayne LaBanca]

Back in mid July I posted the same issue and ultimately feel my filter is at fault and that this is not algae. We all seem to have Hayward sand filters, I don't know of any form of algae that just settles, it either is in suspension or attaches to something.
I know with my filter I can feel a slight suction on the return jet when I backwash and it took 7 days of 24 hour filtering to remove the cloud after spring shock so I'm pretty sure I have a bad spider gasket. Closing for spring I vacuumed to waste to remove the brown wonder and so far, 2 days later, nothing on the bottom. I will continue to check it over the next few weeks and report back.
Can someone siphon some out, put it in a glass and then shock the glass water and see the results? This should determine if it's organic or not.

Wayne