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    So... if I know the starting pH (and TA and CYA), what is the formula for calculating the target pH given a particular amount of Borax?

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    The amount of pH rise that Borax causes is dependent on the starting pH and the TA level (and CYA level). 10 pounds of Borax in your 30,000 gallon pool will raise the pH from 7.0 to 7.29, but if you start with a pH of 7.5 it will raise the pH to 8.14

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticDaddio View Post
    So... if I know the starting pH (and TA and CYA), what is the formula for calculating the target pH given a particular amount of Borax?
    You're going to hate this answer -- it's not a simple formula. I have a spreadsheet that calculates all of this, but it is so complex and scary that it has been known to make grown men cry and teenage girls shriek in horror. If you are a real risk-taker, thrill-seeker, and can close your eyes to all the chemical equations and can live with no instructions or help, you may find this monster by clicking on the link near the end of this post in The China Shop. Don't say I didn't warn you... (HINT: Put in your Initial and Goal conditions and use the "Calculate Acid/Base/TA" button to figure out how much Borax is needed -- this will let the TA value float to match the pH you want while only calculating acid/base and not bicarb. or CO2 outgassing). (SECOND HINT: If you want to see the effect on pH of adding Borax, just put in your initial conditions and the amount of Borax you are adding in the Base section and use the "Calculate pH/TA" button to calculate the Goal values).

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    Thanks for the link to the other post... That is just the type of info I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek View Post
    You're going to hate this answer -- it's not a simple formula. I have a spreadsheet that calculates all of this, but it is so complex and scary that it has been known to make grown men cry and teenage girls shriek in horror. If you are a real risk-taker, thrill-seeker, and can close your eyes to all the chemical equations and can live with no instructions or help, you may find this monster by clicking on the link near the end of this post in The China Shop. Don't say I didn't warn you... (HINT: Put in your Initial and Goal conditions and use the "Calculate Acid/Base/TA" button to figure out how much Borax is needed -- this will let the TA value float to match the pH you want while only calculating acid/base and not bicarb. or CO2 outgassing). (SECOND HINT: If you want to see the effect on pH of adding Borax, just put in your initial conditions and the amount of Borax you are adding in the Base section and use the "Calculate pH/TA" button to calculate the Goal values).

    Richard
    Thanks,
    Ed

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    20'x40'
    Vinyl
    IG
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