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    Default Re: Cloudy water in freshly re-filled pool

    Richard,
    Here are my numbers. You probably need to know our well water is very "hard" and hardness reading is typically 300-400 and has been over 500 in the past.
    Pool Store test results when water was green and cloudy:
    Saturation Index .5
    CYA 10
    FC 5.5
    TC 5.5
    Ph 7.8
    TA 127
    Hardness 357
    My numbers 2 days later when water was white and cloudy (after metal magic):
    FC 4
    TC 4
    ph 7.4
    TA 110
    Pool store #'s yesterday (water clearer but still hazy with white residue on the bottom of pool)
    Sat. index .1 (I guess it all settled to the bottom)
    CYA 10
    TC 1.7
    FC 1.7
    ph 7.6
    TA 99 (??)
    Hardness 334

    I plan to try to vaccuum the residue to waste- good or bad idea? Do I need to add Baking soda to raise the TA, or leave it as it is for now?
    Thanks for all your help!!

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    Default Re: Cloudy water in freshly re-filled pool

    The white stuff at the bottom of the pool is probably calcium carbonate that precipitated so yes, you can vacuum that to waste. You are right that some of that settled down out of the water. Your water should start to clear up since your water is closer to being in balance now IF the pool store's numbers are correct. You do not need to raise your TA at all and in fact should probably keep it on the low side to avoid the cloudiness and can keep your pH lower as well.

    With the pool store numbers of a pH of 7.8, TA of 127, CYA of 10, and CH of 357, I get a saturation index of 0.3, not 0.5, so I don't know how they are doing their calculations. With the later numbers of pH 7.6, TA 99, CYA 10, CH 334, I get a saturation index of 0.2, not 0.1.

    If you want to add some acid to get the pH down around 7.2, that should speed up getting rid of the cloudiness (see below about using Smart Sticks instead), but it's not necessary if you're willing to wait. Lowering the pH will help reduce the TA a little bit as well -- especially if you aerate.

    Get your chlorine back up which you can do easily using the Burn Out 35 or the Smart Sticks or both (not mixed together, but the sticks in the skimmer and the Burn Out 35 in the pool). Since your CYA is low (again, if we believe your pool store), then using a chlorine source that provides CYA, such as Smart Sticks, is fine to use (note that it will lower pH so you can use those instead of adding acid as I mentioned above).

    Richard

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