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    Default Phoenix Super Erase

    Any comments or options on this product?

    I was looking for a metal out product in the local pool store and came across this recently. I have never seem it before.

    I've developed some stains this year which I'm looking to treat. It sounded like a simple product to use as the only requirement was a PH level between 7.5 and 7.8.

    I have a 23K gallon gunite pool.

    Here's the link to the product:
    http://www.phoenixproductsco.com/ter..._Mineral-1.htm

    Google didn't seem to find anything. New product?

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    Proteam metal magic makes the same claim. It's not true. My guess is that this is a private label product made by Haviland, the same company that makes the Proteam products, and that it is just another HEDP based surfactant.
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    Default Re: Phoenix Super Erase

    Thank you.

    So I wonder, will this be an acceptable product for use with the ascorbic acid treatment?

    Beause the ascorbic acid will bring the PH down would it be acceptable to spike the PH, maybe above 8.0, before starting the treatment?

    Or just find another type of metal out product?

    Thanks again for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistyKat View Post
    Thank you.

    So I wonder, will this be an acceptable product for use with the ascorbic acid treatment?

    Beause the ascorbic acid will bring the PH down would it be acceptable to spike the PH, maybe above 8.0, before starting the treatment?

    Or just find another type of metal out product?

    Thanks again for the feedback.
    Just about all HEDP based seqesterants say to adjust the pH before use. Don't lose any sleep about it. If you use this product be sure to read the ingredients. It should be a phosphonic acid derivative or HEDP.
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    OK, thanks!

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