Thank you Pool Doc.I do have pic's but have to wait till I am fully registered to send I believe...The old valve is metal and can't turn at all to open or shut.I believe it is shut now(no water coming from drain at all)They did hook this valve up to PVC piping and was told just replace with PVC Ball valve.I take it then the pressure from the water will make the pool drain if I cut to replace?Same from the skimmer line?Unless I block skimmer hole with plug?I will send pics as soon as able and fully registered...Thank you so much for your help...Ray