use of liquid chlorine in AG vinyl lined pool

[Darkside]

even if 1 scoop produces a light link?

i seem to still be losing FC over night. last night i added chlorine, and took a measurment a little later and it was 20.5ppm. i then used the calculator and it said i needed 2 qrts 6 0z to get 25ppm, so i added that amount, checked later ( this was all late in the evening ) and i measured 19.5ppm. this morning i measured 15.5ppm, came home today and measured 10.5ppm. CC measured this afternoon is .5ppm

so a while ago i added 1 big jug and measured 19.5ppm. according to the calculator i need 2 qrts 3 cups to get 25ppm. ive added all this bleach in the last hour and a half or so, so ill test FC in just a bit.

i have been brushing the floor of the pool in the evening after adding my bleach.

the good news is that the filter came today. its a baleen filter, i actually thought i was ordering some other named filter but this is what i got. does anyone know if these are good filters? its seems to have a better filter medium vrs the orginal factory one. i noticed that when i installed it it took a litte effort to install it onto the tube at the bottom of the filter housing, i remember that the factory one used to fit nice and snug, but not any more... anyways while testing this afternoon after it was in there for about 2 hrs i seemed to already be able to see some improvement in clarity! i have the pump running on low.

[PoolDoc]

the good news is that the filter came today. its a baleen filter

"Baleen" is whale teeth, more are less. What do you mean?

[CarlD]

One thing that concerns me is the use of dilution with tap water. Steam-distilled water should be available in your local supermarket and chain drug store-- people use it in such pedestrian items like old-fashioned steam irons. Tap water can contain all sorts of stuff including chlorine. So always use steam-distilled water for your dilution testing.

[Darkside]

PoolDoc - its says baleen filter on the package. i found the manufacture but dont wanna post up a link. i was just wondering if anyone heard of this model filter and if they had any thoughts. as i said it looks to be of better materials than the factory one.


CarlD - i hear ya 100%, but the taylor kit even says use tap water for dilution test. i did an FC dilution test with the K2006 kit and i measured .5ppm difference from the K-1515, so it seems the tap water didnt mess the test up, but ill go ahead and pick up some for future dilution test on my next chlorine run.

a few things going on here. i brought FC up to 23.5 last night. i tested this morning and had just a 2.5ppm drop to 21ppm, and it rained quite a bit over night so that may have diluted my water some. im not loosing much FC over night. i also measured CC this morning and its .5ppm or less. the new filter has been in for almost 24 hrs. the water looks really really clean, but its still cloudy! i have no visable algae on the floor of the pool.

i was reading a response from PoolDoc to another poster and PoolDoc asked them to list eveything they added to their pool in the last couple of months, this made me nervous since i have added all kinds of junk at the recomendation of the pool store. so here is a list of things ive used in the pool in the last couple of months, maybe this will help diag why the water is still cloudy ( i hope )

i dont have any of this left aqua chem "shock xtra blue" the site does not list ingredients but here is a link ( i used a bunch of this over time). http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Chemi...roduct+Reviews

also used from walmart - aqua chem "natural water clarifier" the bottle does not list ingredients but here is a link. i only used thos once about a month ago per the instructions on the bottle. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Chem-...ifier/19795894

also from walmart arm and hammer "clear balance" active ingredient sodium bicarbonate 86.60% clarifier and other ingredients 13.40%

leslies 3" jumbo tabs active ingredient trichloro-s-triazinetrione ive used this since we got the pool a couple years ago

i dont have any of this left and the site doesnt list the ingredients ( maybe i cant find them ) ive also used this a bunch since we got the pool http://www.lesliespool.com/Home/Pool...ock/12047.html

and finally, probably the mother of all screw ups recommended by the pool store guy a few weeks ago before i found this site.... "green to clean" this has been discussed here as i did some searching last night and found out that this is bad stuff.

last thing i should mention. i have a 5 gallon bucket attached under my stairs filled with golf ball sized river rocks to help weigh it down. i drilled a bunch of 1/2" holes in it to allow water to get in and around the rocks to prevent algae. i was using bags of sand at first but i was getting sand in the pool and the bags were trapping algae inside. could it be that the higher levels of chlorine are breaking down, or eating away at the rocks and causing cloudy water?

i feel like a knuckle head for never educating myself on the pool from day one! i have caused myself much aggrivation and money because of it! funny thing is the first two years were good, now all the crap chemicals have finally caught up with me.

the GOOD news is i have learned more about my pools water chemistry in the last week or two on here than i did in the last two years...

[PoolDoc]

Go ahead and post a link: I'd like to know what it is they are calling a "baleen filter".

Regarding dilution: I haven't checked what Taylor says, but here are the facts:
1. You MUST used distilled water when using dilution to extend the range on a chlorine test, because you have to dilute with some thing that (a) is chlorine free and (b) is chlorine DEMAND free. That rules out tap water (has chlorine) and bottled waters (may have chlorine demand), leaving distilled water as the option.

2. You MAY use tap water when using dilution with a CYA test, since tap water is always CYA free, except in very rare circumstances.

3. You MUST use distilled water when using dilution to perform a phenol red pH test on water with high chlorine; distilled water is the only readily available water that is free of all pH buffers.

Regarding Xtra blue -- it's a diluted dichlor with added copper. If you haven't had stains yet, you may be OK.

[Darkside]

i didnt order from these people. i ordered from amazon, and thought i was getting a unicel filter, though i may have misread something. read the area in the center of the page in blue. http://www.rjfiltration.com/

everything you said makes sense about the distilled water so i will get some to have on hand. no stains from the xtra blue, and i used plenty of it. so, the green to clean should not cause me problems, or cloudiness? i only used 1 pound and followed the directions by adding shock after.

[Darkside]

the pool is looking much nicer today. i can actually make out the swirly designes at the bottom of the liner! i cleaned out the filter today and a bunch of white/milky water was coming out. ive been brushing, or vacuming every afternoon. yesterday after vacuming i decided to leave the poll and vacume in the pool with the vacume head upside down on the floor. i left the poll to lay against the side. also, i left the vacume on the opposite side of the pool as the return is facing the flow of water, i figured this may help pull water from the bottom of the pool through the filter. it may have helped as i noticed a big difference this morning vs yesterday afternoon. PH is right at 7.4 - 7.5 and i have kept FC over 10.5 CC is at .5 or less

we just MIGHT be able to use the pool this weekend for the first time this season! once i get this all cleared up i may drain off some water to get my CYA down around 80-90