To shock or not to shock

[tokmom]

Thank you for your response. We have a bottle of liquid Walmart version of pool chlorine that I think is 12%. As for the Best Guess Chart, I have studied the chart and I thought I understood it. However, I guess I didn't, because were were always in the green.

We did shock this afternoon, before reading your response about adding bleach. Now are numbers are this, and there seems to be another dilemma. The CYA level. I assumed when my husband gave me numbers that he was using Taylor. What he has been using as been strips. The strips show 30-50 and the Taylor shows ZERO. He says he has never been able to get the dot to disappear... So which do we believe?? Do we add stabilizer? This would explain the lower chlorine levels, right?
Husband says on the strips the Chlorine and FC were 10. Such a difference in strips vs Taylor!

Numbers after shocking:

FC 12
CC 0.5
Hardness 130
PH 7.4
TA 160 (do I need to drop this? Seems rather high)
CYA zero...

Again, thanks for your help. I feel like a broken record, but you all amaze me with your water science. I'm a nurse and 'get' human lab values, PH, etc..but this water stuff?? AACK!

[PoolDoc]

We call them 'guess-strips', for a reason. (Actually, my experience with pool test strips has made me nervous about the fact that similar strips are used medically. It makes me wonder how often they are validated!)

You need some CYA. If you have access to a Sams Club, check and see if they sell "PoolBrand" dichlor shock in a 24 x 1lb box. Most do; and at a very good price. The bagged shock in that brand is undiluted and unblended (good!) -- each bag will add about 4 ppm of chlorine to your pool, but also about 3 ppm of CYA. By the time you've used 2/3 of the box to chlorinate, you'll also have a good CYA residual.

If you can't get it at Sams, you'll probably need to order online. Walmart, Costco, Kmart and most pool stores are selling a blended mess of dichlor and other goop. Lowes and HomeDepot vary by location, but you'd have to be an expert label reader to get the right stuff IF they have it. This product from Amazon is also unblended dichlor:

Kem-Tek Dichlor 22 lbs

[tokmom]

Thanks pool doc. My mom has a membership to Sams, and it's an hour away, so that might be the way.
We do have a bottle of HTH stabilizer HTH at 96%. I'm assuming the other 4% is the goop you are talking about and this other stuff is more pure shock, correct?

We will look into Sams or order online on Amazon. Thanks for the link. That helps a lot.

Oh, as for the test strips at a hospital. Most are used for baseline and anything untoward is sent to the lab. At most hospitals I have worked at anyway.

[PoolDoc]

Stabilizer that is 96% cyanuric acid is fine to use; normal production cyanuric has, I think, up to 5% impurities and inerts present.

[tokmom]

Good to know. Thank you!

[tokmom]

UPATE: After our shocking the pool and adding CYA, we saw our CYA actually go up to 45. That was 2 1/2 lbs to the skimmer. That 2 days ago.

We tested today (pool still covered with solar cover with rainy cool weather) and the numbers are as follows:

FC 10 with the smaller volume test or 8.8 with larger. (why the difference?)Did my husband mess up?
CC 2
TA 80
CY 45 ish..
PH 7.2

(we need to get a refill for the Taylor CYA test)

Why did the CC go so high after shocking and adding stabilizer? Is this normal? The weather will be nice this Sunday, so we are hoping to swim. Husband says the pool does have a stronger chlorine smell this morning.

thanks.

[PoolDoc]

Why did the CC go so high after shocking and adding stabilizer? Is this normal? The weather will be nice this Sunday, so we are hoping to swim. Husband says the pool does have a stronger chlorine smell this morning.

When you cover a pool, CC's and CC precursors -- pool goo -- can't escape. Pool goo (it's a technical term here ) consists of bad pool chemicals, sweat, pee, suntan lotion PLUS whatever else gets in the pool and reacts with chlorine. Sunlight, chlorine, and aeration get rid of pool goo. Lose the sunlight, and cover the pool with a vapor-tight cover, and Voila', you have an indoor-chemistry pool. Indoor-chemistry pools have problems with goo.

So, while I don't know exactly where YOUR particular CC's are coming from, they aren't unexpected.

Does that help?