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    Default Re: Help! Fiberglass pool leaking from main drain and skimmer after rains

    Quote Originally Posted by mr2step View Post
    it [ the leaking ] first started after several days of rain after a period of dryness. It rained for about 5 days off and on straight. When the pool was built, it was necessary to 'build up" where the pool was going to be placed as it was slightly sloped.Our home does settle as there are signs of cracking throughout the home and I am sure the pool is no exception.
    Finding THE pool leak is hard, even when you are at the pool deck. Trying to do it via forum posts is nearly impossible. It's easy to find *a* leak; it's hard to know if *a* leak is *the* leak. It's quite common to fix several leaks and discover -- after fixing them -- that none of them are *the* leak! I'm in the middle of this right now, on a 200,000 commercial pool.

    But, your paragraph I quoted above really, really concerns me.

    Fiberglass pools are VERY light, relatively speaking. If the ground water level gets even a few inches above the level of the water in the pool, the pool can literally float out of the ground. Here's an extreme case, involving a concrete pool, posted on my Facebook page. In this case it's easy to see. But if your pool lifted 2 - 3", and then settled back, you might not see it. But you still might have a bunch of cracked pipes.

    Putting lightweight pools (FG or liner) in wet sand is something of a risky business.

    A hydrostatic valve is installed to prevent the sort of pool pop shown on the Facebook page. But it's function depends on being installed in a HEAVY pool, like a concrete pool. Because it takes so little hydrostatic pressure to lift an FG pool, a hydrostatic valve is unlikely to open and relieve pressure. Hydrostatic valves do sometimes open, and then 'stick'. To check someone has to SCUBA down, and remove the main drain cover, and check. But again I think this is unlikely on an FG pool.

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    Default Re: Help! Fiberglass pool leaking from main drain and skimmer after rains

    Thanks for the input. Yeah I could understand why you would think about the pool "floating" however I don't think that is the issue, though not saying it isn't a possibility for this reason. We have amazing soil so drainage is outstanding. We rarely ever have standing water unless we get heavy rains of like 3-4 inches an hour but even within an hour of stopping the puddles absorb. I have also never had this problem before after rains so it probably would have happened by now in the 12 yrs since install I would have thought. The reason I ask about the hydrostatic valve is as you mentioned. I had read it can get stuck with possible debris or just get old and then let water out. The problem is which I mentioned in the OP is that I only have a main drain in the deep end but it is in the wall. There is no access to the piping other then the 1 1/2 pvc pipe opening. This is why I cannot tell if we even HAVE a hydro valve or not to access. My pool is leaking and it is sudden as I mentioned. It holds 30 lbs of pressure with the exception of the skimmer which does now. I know that leaks. But the drain is also leaking which DOES hold pressure per the pool guy as do the return jets. The funny thing is that it leaks 2 inches day via the drain when NOT running. I am noticing bubbles in the suction lines so am thinking maybe a suction leak somewhere? Would that be possible? Would a suction leak not be detected on pressure testing? I am just looking for some information. I am sure there may be more then one leak and am not using this forum to "diagnose" the leak but just for information on possibilities to look into. Thanks for the input!
    Also, do you think it is possible for the main drain and skimmer to share a common line until they branch off again headed back to the pump?

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    Default Re: Help! Fiberglass pool leaking from main drain and skimmer after rains

    Hydrostatic valves only open when the pressure OUTSIDE and UNDER the pool is considerably greater than the pressure INSIDE the pool. This can only happen when ground water levels are a foot or more higher than pool water levels. So . . . if your soil drains like you say, any hydrostatic valve could not have opened.

    Put another way: conditions that would open the valve, would be even more likely to float the pool!

    If it leaks MORE when the pump is OFF, than when it is on, it's even more likely you have a cracked underground suction line. In such a line, when the pump is ON, the pressure inside the pipe is reduced, thus reducing the leak.

    . . . Still sounds like a popped (floated) pool to me.

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