She Crashed In !!!!!!

[hoffmans]

OK
Tom said it is not the top rails that are not pulling in. It is the walls that are being pulled down & out of the top rails & in in towards the water.
We only put 2-3 inches of water in from the hose.

Then We got 5" of rain in 24 hours.
Flood warnings everywhere.

The pump in there and we got some water out. One of the wall sections that was *sucking in* just popped back out and into it's proper position.
I am hoping that removing some of the water will relieve the pressure on the liner & walls.

We've got to figure out the reason for this problem.
Could it be that we didn't install the liner properly? But the seams were staight.
Could it be that the liner is too short?
Could the liner be too short b/c we followed the Happy Bottom instructions and did NOT put 2" of fill material on the bottom?
Could it be something else??????

Can't wait to hear what the sales lady says tomorrow....
So sad,
~Hoffmans

[hrsdennis]

Hi, I too am sorry you are having problems. The two inches of sand could make a difference but not that much. You will have a much better looking pool with a liner on the small side, such as yours, rather than a liner that is to big for your pool. That's the thing with beaded liners. You never know what you will get.

Your liner needs overhead direct sunlight. The liner has a lot of stretching to do. It will do it, it just needs a warm sunny day. You would not believe the difference the sun makes.

Be sure also that the bottom of the pool is smooth. Push all of the wrinkles to the outside, this will create more liner at the walls.

The post I made today about my job could never have been done without direct overhead warm sun. That liner was a full 25 mil and took every bit of strentgh my wife and I had to get it over the top rails. After 30 plus minutes of pulling, the liner had warmed up enough to fit the pool. Had I not had overhead sun I would never have attempted it. The difference between 80 degrees and 110 degrees is just amazing.

Hope it works out, Dennis

[matt4x4]

Ouch! You have no idea how bad I feel for your situation right now, my best advice at this point in the game is to empty it and wait for a full sun day, you can hold the framework in place by tying it back from under the top rails (used wire bent into hooks to overhang wall) to stakes in the ground - like a tent.
I thought I had a pic of mine in that state on my PC, but after looking - I don't.
Mine stayed that way for 2 weeks waiting for the right warmer sunny day to install the liner - finally, I'd had enough and installed it on one of those grey spring days where it was threatening to rain, and I end up fnding out that my J hook liner is actually oversized - when we had it hung all around, I had almost a foot of material left over - now since we had tugged it as we hooked it on, we ended up untugging it all around and it ended up seating perfectly.
Yours needs full sun, if you put it in with full sun - likely a morning job, then let it hang until noon or 2 pm before adding water, it should stretch plenty for it all to come together.
Your wall looks ok, no real big creases. from what I can tell, it'll all work out just fine.

[NWMNMom]

Yikes. I feel so bad for you! That is what was happening with ours and we stopped and the next day at about 11:30 began again when it was HOT and sunny - man, that liner stretched like ever. All is not lost, it will go and it will be good. Just waiting on the sun - I see in the forecast that it IS on its way - this afternoon or tomorrow it should be perfect for that liner. Fingers crossed for you.

[hoffmans]

Thank you guys for your help.
One more question.

Our fear is this: When there is little to no water in the pool the liner
is 8 to 12" away from the walls and about 6" or more away from the foam
cove. Will the liner stretch that much into place under the sun?
Can we leave the liner hanging in the pool ( forecast is for rain for the next
5-6 days)?

When we had 8" of water in the pool, the liner was still quite
away from the wall and cove.

One other thing, the top rails could be as much as 1" out of level worst case.
Is that acceptable?
It looked good using a four foot level with a board on edge.
But later we used a laser level it was out of level 1/2" to 1".

Update:
We pumped the water down to 2-3" and most of the sides popped back into
shape.

Thank you,
~Hoffmans

[hoffmans]

Matt-
Thank you for the PM, it was very helpful.
6 daughters and 2 boys.... I don't know how much help any of them are. Not one of them is taller than my shoulders.

We will do take your advice on the liner adjustment.
I think you are right. Too many wrinkles on the bottom and not enough sun.

We did measure the pool- it is round.

It sure is a nice to have you guys all here.

So i guess we wait for a hot sunny day.
Should we leave the liner hang there till next week or should we drop the line down to the floor?

Thank You.
~Hoffmans

[hoffmans]

Forgive me for all the questions guys,


While we are reinstalling the liner ( on the hot sunny day ) should we leave the top rails off untill the liner is completely on or will that make the wall want to buckle in ?

Thanks a ton,
~Hoffmans